• rmuk@feddit.uk
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    I remember my Grandfather telling me with utter seriousness and sincerity that by the year 2000 everyone would have a personal hovercraft and that we’d take holidays on the moon.

    This was in 1996.

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    Its 2027 and most candidates need to find “underaged women” to be able to qualify for the office. Everyone will vote and their vote will count! Except for women, minorities, and people who don’t earn a minimum of 5 million per year.

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    There is a 1970 British series called UFO. If you are an XCOM (or X-COM, for older folks like me) you should check it out.

    There are tech like shuttles to the Moon and racism has been all left in the past. In the future year of 1980.

  • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip
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    The year is pretty much arbitrary. It’s a simple calculation: date(published) + 50 or so.

    This is why I often prefer SciFi that distances itself from any idea of “our near future” - by using a completely different dating system for example.

    The thing that actually gave SciFi its name - fantasizing about where science and technology might go from here - is not my favorite, esp. if there’s no consideration for societal development. Like misogynistic cowboys with laser guns.

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      Like misogynistic cowboys with laser guns.

      I read first few stories from Asimov’s I, Robot, and, holy shit, his robots are pretty much stand-ins for slaves. They are property, get threatened with violence, are forbidden to be in the streets at night, and some models even address their owners as “master”. But none of that is addressed anywhere, it’s some convoluted logic puzzles instead. So I don’t know if author was oblivious or thought such things are OK because they are not humans (terrible slippery slope to go on).

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        Pretty sure Asimov dealt with the human/robot division in at least some of his books. But also, ‘I, Robot’ is probably the worst collection to look for that. You’d do better with ‘The Caves of Steel’, and probably the rest of the novels centered around R. Daneel Olivaw.

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      Except we’ll get well into 2552 and people will still be struggling to survive paycheque to paycheque while reading the Halo series wishing John Halo would save them.

    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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      Social values go up and down. It’s not linear.

      Look at how right Gen Z is or gay acceptance/persecution every few centuries.

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      Unless you have an Epstein Drive. (No pun intended, it’s really called that. I’m sure the authors weren’t aware of future implications.) Anyhow, when some hard SciFi fans asked them how fast the Epstein drive is, they answered “really, really fast”.

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        Not really. It’s still a fusion drive with ridiculously low fuel use, so functions in real space. That means it can’t go faster than light speed. With 1G acceleration and a flip and burn, the max speed is 0.95 light speed.

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          You know, I think they actually said that. The Expanse is one of the few near-future solar-system-only SciFi I really like. I should have gone with Iain M Banks I guess.

          My point: it’s fiction. It can be as fast as you need it to be.

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    I thought space travel was just around the corner until I was like 22 :(

    Musk gave me hope when he sent a car to mars and then he spent the next decade either fucking democracy or fucking children.

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      He just sent that car to orbit. Its not really a great achievment we have been sneding heavier things than that for some time. Just a publicity stunt and rocket test in one.

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      Musk wanted to fuck children but wasn’t cool enough with the pedo crowd. Which is gross and extremely pathetic.

      I too have high hopes I’ll see a human in orbit or on mars before I die. But all that big money is instead being spent on mega yachts and lobbying to fuck us over. So I think it’s more likely we’ll be living in a Mad Max movie instead of a cool space sci-fi one.

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        Musk wanted to fuck children but wasn’t cool enough with the pedo crowd. Which is gross and extremely pathetic.

        Just because he’s too cringe to be allowed on the main pedo island, it doesn’t mean he couldn’t have found other ways.

        It’s maddening how Earth has become a resort for about 2000 of this monsters, while everyone else has to suffer to feed their neverending greed.

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          Luckily we don’t need any sci-fi tech to solve this problem. A French invention that’s already two centuries old at this point will do just fine.

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            Hear me out for a second, what if we did a bit of both and built guillotine drones?

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        I thought there were multiple instances of him “partying”. There’s mostly just that one email exchange where they didn’t want him back.

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      And also spending a some time making shit up about his past and “upbringing”

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      I will always be grateful to my second year middle school geography teacher for hinting towards Musk’s space grift. They were so underated, but everything they said was real.

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        Yes but 90s vision of dystopia is better than 2020s reality in some ways. For example all those tech gadgets and implants actually work without any subscription, cloud connection etc. any kind of spying and malware usage is actually done by criminals or special agents on specific targets.

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          Not even true, you have to pay to breath clean air in the height of the day. In my games, if your netrunner isn’t up to snuff you are paying monthly to activate your wrist gun implant. Its a critique of today not of the future, add all that shit in and fuckinf wreck your players, its the cyberpunk way.

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    Well, in the mid-20th century, it was easy to think like that. The New York Times predicted that mankind would build a working flying machine within the next million years. The Wright Brothers flew at Kitty Hawk two weeks later. Less than seventy years after that, an average American citizen could fly to Europe on a jumbo jet and man had walked on the moon. By the time I was born, the space shuttle was regularly flying, we had CD players and satellite television. the 20th century was NUTS.

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    Not unfounded hopes.

    The foundations of zero inertia propulsion were being made into working prototypes attached to hot air balloons in the mid 1800s. Decades before the wright brother’s first aeroplane flight.

    And we never needed rockets.

    The bell (“die glocke” in german), presumed a failure, was not the pinnacle of human innovation in this area. Someone had the “foo fighters” in WW2.

    Given following the tech arc from Michael Faraday through to Nikola Tesla, I suspect humans.

    T Townsend Brown, too, not the grand pinnacle.

    But even at the level of “die glocke”, and Townsend Brown, the sci-fi of the 1950’s, the hopes, were well founded expectations.

    Agnotology’s quite a vast industry. Perhaps the biggest industry. But as it’s doing its job so well, we’d not know.

    At energy conferences sometime between 2000 and 2005 (I forget when), patent office whistle blower Tom Valone revealed that (something to the effect of) “by the year 2000 there had already been over 3000 free energy device patents secreted”.

    We have so much headroom without the crooks thieving a century or two of progress from us.

    … Not just free energy, and zero inertia propulsion, but also energy-matter transfer (e.g. can “print” gold from “nothing”), and more.